I decided to surf around for some Muslim message boards in english. I found an interesting one. Reading through the threads there seem to be some argument about being a true Muslim or giving into the moderate wing. A lot of people answered questions only with quotes from the Koran.
I randomly selected a few that bothered me a bit. The questions were mainly about which clerics were attending a Muslim conference in the UK. They seem to argue against the more moderate ones. I was about to link this message board and suddenly I got a bit nervous. I know that sounds crazy, but I started thinking that I didn't want those on the board to know I linked them or quoted them. It was strange for me because it was the first time I felt a trickle of fear about being known. Most on this board seemed to be from the UK. They sarcastically refer to people thinking everyone who is Muslim is a terrorist, but I have never seen that attitude anywhere. It seemed to me they would rather uses verses than actually "say" what they wanted to. I guess for obvious reasons. Anyway, here they are: The first one is an answer to a Muslim who lives in America and asks what will happen if he dies when being attacked by Muslims. The answer may give us some insight into why the terrorists in Iraq don't seem to care whether they kill their own people in the attacks.
"No worries Raf, if you become collateral damage in a just war carried out in the name of Islam against the west, isn't your assention to Jannah guaranteed? Now, if we could figure a way to claim terrorism as a just Jihad, we are in business."
"So who is really better off, us or the martyrs of Iraq?"
"The martyrs of course. They've made it to where we are all trying to get to."
"here's a little quote that you might find, answers your query, perfectly.
Quote:
... even if some of our brothers die in our actions, it is no matter. If ten Muslims die in a plane that we shoot down that is filled with hundreds of Christians, Hindus and Jews, rejoice, for the brothers are martyrs and will thank us in paradise.Haj Amin al- Husseini"
"Salam Chapter 7:182. Those who reject Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), We shall gradually seize them with punishment in ways they perceive not 183. And I respite them; certainly My Plan is strong."
"Lo! Conspiracy is only of the devil, that he may vex those who believe; but he can harm them not at all unless by Allah's leave. In Allah let believers put their trust. (58:10)
Say: Nothing will afflict us save what Allah has ordained for us; He is our Patron; and on Allah let the believers rely. (9:51)
So let them plot!"
"Surah 9 [9.52] Say: Do you await for us but one of two most excellent things? And we await for you that Allah will afflict you with punishment from Himself or by our hands. So wait; we too will wait with you. It is only a matter of time... "
"However, Jihād is one of the greatest docrtines of Islām and its prescription is one of the pinnacles of Islāmic theology."
"O Muslimeen - stop falling in love with the lusts and desires of this World. Sacrifice all you have for your Lord Allāh, the Glorious and the Exalted, and fight against all other forces which dare to oppose the Revealed Law of Allāh the One, the Only. Do you forget the legacy of Bādr?"
"It is he (Allah) who has sent his Messenger (saw) with guidance and the religion of truth, in order for it to be dominant over all other religions, even though the Mushrikoon (disbelievers) hate it." (EMQ at-Tawbah, 9: 33)
"Chimp Bush said, 'you are either with us (the nonmuslims, US allies) or you are with the terrorists (Muslims). and Sheikh Usama bin Laden also said, "The whole world is divided into two camps, the camp of Imaan and the camp of kufr."
Interesting how this Muslim from the UK uses the derogatory name for Bush that the left uses here.
From reading the more conversational posts you can tell these are not terrorists or supporters, (except for a couple I quoted above) but it did give me a bit of insight in the rigid belief that keeps them from speaking out against the terrorists.
UPDATE: See post above for the next day when the London bombings occurred.
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